1-3 Roman Catholic Debate – Topic – Mary
What Role does Mary play in the Catholic Church. A debate with Dr. Walter Martin VS Fr. Mitchell Pacwa.
Duration : 0:8:0
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1-3 Roman Catholic Debate – Topic – Mary
What Role does Mary play in the Catholic Church. A debate with Dr. Walter Martin VS Fr. Mitchell Pacwa.
Duration : 0:8:0
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25 Responses to “1-3 Roman Catholic Debate – Topic – Mary”
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kiyimba45 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Dr walter Martin is …
Dr walter Martin is the best he knows his stuff -
hoolmigas1 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
there was nothing …
there was nothing mystical or magical or even divine about Mary. She was very like everyone of us, she needed a Savior. All the events in the conception was GOD’s WORK according to the pleasure of His good will. Mary never participated not even a fraction in the final redeeming ACT of Jesus. It was Jesus who torned the temple veil in two and paved the way for me and you. It is finished! -
hoolmigas1 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
vivacristo1000
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vivacristo1000No exceptions for humans that is descendants of ADAM + EVE union on the verse Rom.3:23 in which Mary belonged to.. it’s called spiritual depravity. The only exception is the Lord Jesus Christ for it was through the power of the Holy Spirit that Mary conceived. In the end Mary was just a servant who was willing to do the WILL of GOD.
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Utubing74 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Hi there, I am not …
Hi there, I am not trying to be rude or anything. But I just want to know how a Catholic like yourself would answer these questions.1) Why did Mary need to be saved from the taint of original sin?
2) Was Mary’s mother born saved from the taint of original sin?
3) Was Marys’ grandmother saved from thr taint of original sin?
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Fusion840 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I think everyone …
I think everyone should also do some research on Hebrews and the significance of the copies of heaven and the replication of things on earth… This plays a very important role in what is being discussed. “On earth as it is in heaven…” Everything that has been done in the OT was reconstructed through the NT. -
Fusion840 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
THERE IT IS! “ALL …
THERE IT IS! “ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” — There should be no more comments on this vid, lol! But seriously if Mary refers to Jesus as her savior then she was, in fact, with sin and was cleansed… I also want everyone to pay attention to the OT it explains a lot, Ark of the Covenant anyone?? What did it contain?? Was the ark of any significance or its content?? -
vivacristo1000 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Self-appointed …
Self-appointed freelance Bible interpreters create confusion. Christ gave the Church authority, and the Church identifies Mary as the woman from Gen. 3:15.Suppose a man falls into a deep pit full of mud and someone pulls him out. The man has been “saved.” Now consider a person who is about to fall into the pit but someone prevents the fall into the muddy pit first place. That person too has been saved.
Regarding Rom. 3:23, there are exceptions. A child below the age of reason has sinned?
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james3v6 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
So you must be …
So you must be smarter than Saint Thomas Aquinas? Or is that the argument that Catholic Church uses to support it’s unbiblical doctrine of Mary being perpetually sinless? I thought the bible says, “ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” -
vivacristo1000 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Mary was saved from …
Mary was saved from the taint of original sin; thus she calls God her savior. If you are in fall in a pit and someone rescues you, that person is your savior. Bu so is someone who prevents you from falling into the pit in the first place. -
BesACB on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
I know Mary had a …
I know Mary had a tattoo on her left buttock, but was it a rose or a lily? And is there a difference between Catholics and Protestants on that point? -
UalhashimiU on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
how stupid we call …
how stupid we call someone young “father” -
hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
edyEi: I don’t …
edyEi: I don’t need to watch the video again. It is a heavily edited, personally biased, deceitful and misleading piece of propoganda. It is a crime to call it a debate; it is nowhere near. Unfortunately that is typical of those who pit themselves uselessly against The Church.You know which doctrines the One True Church teaches are infallible. Stop playing games and be enough of an adult to simply say either “I disagree” or “I don’t understand this point; can you clear it up for me”.
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eDyEi on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
hiswife- u just …
hiswife- u just dont get it do u?? Watch the video carefuly and show me wat infallible doctrines are u saying the RCC has.. -
hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
The Church itself …
The Church itself and her teachings are of Christ and, therefore, are infallible. The people in it are human and very fallible. The mistakes of individuals are not the mistakes of the Church. The Church will always stand and the gates of will not prevail against it. But the individuals within the Church are very capable of failing, and of falling into Hell, God have mercy. -
hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
(con’t) that should …
(con’t) that should be considerable). If people either do not avail themselves of the teachings or do not choose to follow them, there is not much that the Church can do. For those who do not pursue the faith or treat it like a buffet (take some teachings, leave some), that is between them and God and they will answer for it on the Last Day, God have mercy.To the extent that priests and bishops and, theoretically, the Pope do NOT teach the Truth, they are accountable to God, as well.
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hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
eDyEi There are, …
eDyEi There are, of course, spiritually blind, misguided and ignorant people in The Church, as there are the same in every denomination and no denomination. I’m not quite sure what you mean “how can the church allow this?”. The Church is very clear in her teachings…pick up any authentic document of the Church, any catechism, and you will find the teachings of the Church. They are there for any person who can read, (and considering how much tax money we spend to educate children, (con’t) -
eDyEi on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
hiswife: so how can …
hiswife: so how can the church allow this?? How can the sheperd allow the sheep to wander in the wrong direction? This has been a problem for centuries and none has stood up to correct it.. The people are spiritually blind, misguided and ignorant of thr truth.. Isnt it the churches responsibility and accountability?? -
hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
edy: It is true …
edy: It is true that there are people who elevate Mary to a status which Jesus did not intend. And, of course, to worship Mary would be included in that description. But that’s a person with a lack of understanding of a teaching of the Church, not a problem with the teachings itself. -
eDyEi on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Ofcourse Mary will …
Ofcourse Mary will never take the place of her son but its the people that elevates Mary to be in parallel with Jesus’ position as God.. Who says anything about shoving her aside?? I respect Mary and consider her the greatest woman ever lived.. but she’s just not our God.. -
hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
Mary never takes …
Mary never takes the place of Jesus; she can’t because she is not God, nor is she Jesus, nor is she the Holy Spirit.She IS however, a powerful advocate and a wonderful grace in the lives of those who know her. You limit yourself and offend the Lord when you shove her aside.
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hiswife2002 on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
eDyEi: God, nor …
eDyEi: God, nor Jesus, are constrained by time and space.Why do you seek to limit God and His Son to only what you, as a mortal and a sinner (as are we all), can understand?
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eDyEi on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
-God created us!
- …
-God created us!
-God died for us!
-God saved us!
and everything we have right now is only possible by the grace and love of Jesus.. there is only one mediator between man and God and his name is JESUS!! he is the WAY! the TRUTH! and the LIFE! and no one can come to the Father except through him(JESUS) not Mary.. so i believe that after everything he has done for us.. He alone deserves all the Glory, Honor n Praise!! God bless u all!Peace! =)
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eDyEi on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
this is just my …
this is just my opinion guys.. God is omnipresent or everywhere, he is all powerful and all knowing.. this characteristics only imply to God.. so if Mary is not god how could she hear the people’s prayer?? ONLY GOD is OMNIPRESENT!! imagine 2 people talking to you at the same time.. how can u understand what they r saying?? how much more millions talking at the same time?? -
michiganois on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
To add to my …
To add to my immediate entry: Karl Keating wrote about Fundamentalist Protestants: “… Mary said her spirit rejoices in God my Savior. (Lk 1:47), and only a sinner needs a Savior.” Source: Catholicism & Fundamentalism by Karl Keating (p.27) To the producers of The John Ankerberg Show…”Do your homework!!!” -
michiganois on October 13th, 2009 at 12:14 pm
[Time..2:53] PLAIN …
[Time..2:53] PLAIN FALSE & SLOPPY: Thomas Aquinas NEVER declared: “Only a sinner needs a Savior,and Mary must have been a sinner, since she stated: “My spirit rejoices in God my Savior.” In fact, this was written in recent years to explain the Fundamentalist Protestant view.
Fundamentalists chief reason for objecting to the Immaculate Conception and Marys consequent sinlessness….[is that] only a sinner needs a Savior. Source: Catholicism & Fundamentalism by Karl Keating (p.27)
Dr walter Martin is …
Dr walter Martin is the best he knows his stuff
there was nothing …
there was nothing mystical or magical or even divine about Mary. She was very like everyone of us, she needed a Savior. All the events in the conception was GOD’s WORK according to the pleasure of His good will. Mary never participated not even a fraction in the final redeeming ACT of Jesus. It was Jesus who torned the temple veil in two and paved the way for me and you. It is finished!
vivacristo1000
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vivacristo1000
No exceptions for humans that is descendants of ADAM + EVE union on the verse Rom.3:23 in which Mary belonged to.. it’s called spiritual depravity. The only exception is the Lord Jesus Christ for it was through the power of the Holy Spirit that Mary conceived. In the end Mary was just a servant who was willing to do the WILL of GOD.
Hi there, I am not …
Hi there, I am not trying to be rude or anything. But I just want to know how a Catholic like yourself would answer these questions.
1) Why did Mary need to be saved from the taint of original sin?
2) Was Mary’s mother born saved from the taint of original sin?
3) Was Marys’ grandmother saved from thr taint of original sin?
I think everyone …
I think everyone should also do some research on Hebrews and the significance of the copies of heaven and the replication of things on earth… This plays a very important role in what is being discussed. “On earth as it is in heaven…” Everything that has been done in the OT was reconstructed through the NT.
THERE IT IS! “ALL …
THERE IT IS! “ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” — There should be no more comments on this vid, lol! But seriously if Mary refers to Jesus as her savior then she was, in fact, with sin and was cleansed… I also want everyone to pay attention to the OT it explains a lot, Ark of the Covenant anyone?? What did it contain?? Was the ark of any significance or its content??
Self-appointed …
Self-appointed freelance Bible interpreters create confusion. Christ gave the Church authority, and the Church identifies Mary as the woman from Gen. 3:15.
Suppose a man falls into a deep pit full of mud and someone pulls him out. The man has been “saved.” Now consider a person who is about to fall into the pit but someone prevents the fall into the muddy pit first place. That person too has been saved.
Regarding Rom. 3:23, there are exceptions. A child below the age of reason has sinned?
So you must be …
So you must be smarter than Saint Thomas Aquinas? Or is that the argument that Catholic Church uses to support it’s unbiblical doctrine of Mary being perpetually sinless? I thought the bible says, “ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.”
Mary was saved from …
Mary was saved from the taint of original sin; thus she calls God her savior. If you are in fall in a pit and someone rescues you, that person is your savior. Bu so is someone who prevents you from falling into the pit in the first place.
I know Mary had a …
I know Mary had a tattoo on her left buttock, but was it a rose or a lily? And is there a difference between Catholics and Protestants on that point?
how stupid we call …
how stupid we call someone young “father”
edyEi: I don’t …
edyEi: I don’t need to watch the video again. It is a heavily edited, personally biased, deceitful and misleading piece of propoganda. It is a crime to call it a debate; it is nowhere near. Unfortunately that is typical of those who pit themselves uselessly against The Church.
You know which doctrines the One True Church teaches are infallible. Stop playing games and be enough of an adult to simply say either “I disagree” or “I don’t understand this point; can you clear it up for me”.
hiswife- u just …
hiswife- u just dont get it do u?? Watch the video carefuly and show me wat infallible doctrines are u saying the RCC has..
The Church itself …
The Church itself and her teachings are of Christ and, therefore, are infallible. The people in it are human and very fallible. The mistakes of individuals are not the mistakes of the Church. The Church will always stand and the gates of will not prevail against it. But the individuals within the Church are very capable of failing, and of falling into Hell, God have mercy.
(con’t) that should …
(con’t) that should be considerable). If people either do not avail themselves of the teachings or do not choose to follow them, there is not much that the Church can do. For those who do not pursue the faith or treat it like a buffet (take some teachings, leave some), that is between them and God and they will answer for it on the Last Day, God have mercy.
To the extent that priests and bishops and, theoretically, the Pope do NOT teach the Truth, they are accountable to God, as well.
eDyEi There are, …
eDyEi There are, of course, spiritually blind, misguided and ignorant people in The Church, as there are the same in every denomination and no denomination. I’m not quite sure what you mean “how can the church allow this?”. The Church is very clear in her teachings…pick up any authentic document of the Church, any catechism, and you will find the teachings of the Church. They are there for any person who can read, (and considering how much tax money we spend to educate children, (con’t)
hiswife: so how can …
hiswife: so how can the church allow this?? How can the sheperd allow the sheep to wander in the wrong direction? This has been a problem for centuries and none has stood up to correct it.. The people are spiritually blind, misguided and ignorant of thr truth.. Isnt it the churches responsibility and accountability??
edy: It is true …
edy: It is true that there are people who elevate Mary to a status which Jesus did not intend. And, of course, to worship Mary would be included in that description. But that’s a person with a lack of understanding of a teaching of the Church, not a problem with the teachings itself.
Ofcourse Mary will …
Ofcourse Mary will never take the place of her son but its the people that elevates Mary to be in parallel with Jesus’ position as God.. Who says anything about shoving her aside?? I respect Mary and consider her the greatest woman ever lived.. but she’s just not our God..
Mary never takes …
Mary never takes the place of Jesus; she can’t because she is not God, nor is she Jesus, nor is she the Holy Spirit.
She IS however, a powerful advocate and a wonderful grace in the lives of those who know her. You limit yourself and offend the Lord when you shove her aside.
eDyEi: God, nor …
eDyEi: God, nor Jesus, are constrained by time and space.
Why do you seek to limit God and His Son to only what you, as a mortal and a sinner (as are we all), can understand?
-God created us!
- …
-God created us!
-God died for us!
-God saved us!
and everything we have right now is only possible by the grace and love of Jesus.. there is only one mediator between man and God and his name is JESUS!! he is the WAY! the TRUTH! and the LIFE! and no one can come to the Father except through him(JESUS) not Mary.. so i believe that after everything he has done for us.. He alone deserves all the Glory, Honor n Praise!! God bless u all!
Peace! =)
this is just my …
this is just my opinion guys.. God is omnipresent or everywhere, he is all powerful and all knowing.. this characteristics only imply to God.. so if Mary is not god how could she hear the people’s prayer?? ONLY GOD is OMNIPRESENT!! imagine 2 people talking to you at the same time.. how can u understand what they r saying?? how much more millions talking at the same time??
To add to my …
To add to my immediate entry: Karl Keating wrote about Fundamentalist Protestants: “… Mary said her spirit rejoices in God my Savior. (Lk 1:47), and only a sinner needs a Savior.” Source: Catholicism & Fundamentalism by Karl Keating (p.27) To the producers of The John Ankerberg Show…”Do your homework!!!”
[Time..2:53] PLAIN …
[Time..2:53] PLAIN FALSE & SLOPPY: Thomas Aquinas NEVER declared: “Only a sinner needs a Savior,and Mary must have been a sinner, since she stated: “My spirit rejoices in God my Savior.” In fact, this was written in recent years to explain the Fundamentalist Protestant view.
Fundamentalists chief reason for objecting to the Immaculate Conception and Marys consequent sinlessness….[is that] only a sinner needs a Savior. Source: Catholicism & Fundamentalism by Karl Keating (p.27)