New Documentary Debates Religion
Author Christopher Hitchens and Pastor Douglas Wilson on the debate over faith and religion in ‘Collision.’
Duration : 0:8:24
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Author Christopher Hitchens and Pastor Douglas Wilson on the debate over faith and religion in ‘Collision.’
Duration : 0:8:24
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He’s an agnostic, …
He’s an agnostic, in other words, CONFUSED.
A man dressed as a …
A man dressed as a cowboy on a topical debate show?
Only in America.
Imus is getting …
Imus is getting weirder and weirder with age.
u gotta be kidding
u gotta be kidding
Hitchens is making …
Hitchens is making a lot of sense here.
If you like, I will …
If you like, I will supply an answer.
Well, to say ” …
Well, to say “simply governed” is a gross oversimplification.
The truth is, his little tirade was based in ignorance. It’s like saying, “If gasoline is liquid, and cold, then how does it make fire, which is hot?”. It’s just plain old stupid, it involves insurmountably more complex constituents, though.
Again, the religious have a problem with randomness, material, and evolution. Why? If they really believe god created everything, why not randomness, material, and evolution?
I understand what …
I understand what Wilson was doing. cbruer summarized what I was trying to say in a much more lucid way than I could. I’m an agnostic so I don’t consider the deistic position to be an illogical one but one that garners no evidence.
I am surprised at …
I am surprised at the fascination of the host. Sounds like he never really thought about the possibility that there is no god.
Best host ever
Best host ever
To be fair, I think …
To be fair, I think his point is even more fundamental than evolution. If our world is simply governed by the quantum interaction of subatomic particles… whose mathematical description involves probability and randomness… then how do we derive meaning from that?
Of course I would say, that proves nothing about the existence of god, and that we exist because otherwise we wouldn’t. Don’t need much more meaning than that.
He wasn’t making a …
He wasn’t making a point, he was playing devil’s advocate. He was saying “gee how silly would that be”.
If he had made that point, it would be different. He was trying to prove that thesis wrong. Also, it’s nothing new, and theists make quite a few points by sort of taking on the position of the atheist. In fact, it’s the only time they ever make a valid point.
No, I don’t think he was articulate, either. He didn’t act like a raving lunatic, as he would love to do with the right audience.
Wilson’s point at …
Wilson’s point at about 5:59 – 6:15. If you notice, Hitchens actually concedes this point, but then states that it’s nonsensical to try define or assign “order” to any authority.
“random collection …
“random collection of atoms” just shows how little Wilson has read about evolution.
He has no clue.
Which point was …
Which point was that?
I actually thought …
I actually thought Wilson was rather articulate in this piece. He made a rather compelling argument for a deistic position (though not a Christian one).
“If there’s no god, …
“If there’s no god, then what is reason”? LMAO dumbass pastor.
That’s Don Imus and …
That’s Don Imus and, believe it or not, at one time he was quite funny.
He was always a conservative but he seemed to understand the basic concept of fairness in his examination of the world.
Now, he’s a co-opted old man shilling for Fox in a hat so big it looks like his stack-of-dimes neck might shatter under it’s mass at any moment.
In fairness, however, at one time, he understood the need for critical thinking. At his age, who am I to judge? I might give up by then too.
Oh ffs Im Swedish …
Oh ffs Im Swedish and dont listen to a squat US radio but even I know who the host Don Imus is. Remember the “Nappy Headed Ho Incident” last year?
Who the is …
Who the is this hick geriatric cowboy host??
lol
lol
What the is …
What the is the host wearing???