How come in every debate point for point Creationism vs Evolution – Evolution always wins?
What is it about Evolution vs Creationism that in every single debate Evolution always wins? Even the 1920 Scopes Monkey Trial, despite the $100 fine, culturally Evolution won.
Evolution has been winning and will continue to win.
Is it because people who believe in Creationism have still not to this day produced one single piece of credible scientific empirical evidence?
God has always been denied by men.Man has always exulted himself above God.And yet all men still die and God still is.
He who writes the books controls the reality of men.
Yes, it is.
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Other than what is in the text books of the secular humanist government indoctrination centers commonly called "public education", you will be hard pressed to find any valid scientific evidence for evolutionary theory.
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http://www.standontherock.org/grace.html
Debate Kent Hovind for the chance of $250,000+, lets see if you win.
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You are correct.
Creationism tries to pick apart the mountains of evidence supporting evolution,
but never offers a crumb of evidence for their ideas.
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No it doesnt
Darwin is dead
God is alive
If you dont listen now someday you will wish you had.
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funny but I was thinking exactly the opposite. no one has ever produced a shred of evidence to show the "missing link" between ape and man.
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That pretty much sums it up, yes.
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Bias. What ever preconceived notion you have as to what is "TRUE" in regards to worldviews, you will evaluate all responses to your bias. It takes a personal revelation to be broad-minded enough to realize the error of evolution. Science and the Bible agree on origins.
In the beginning, God created. A presupposition that needs no clarification.
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Genesis 1:1 (Bible)
http://www.answersingenesis.org/home/area/cfol/ch1-beginning.asp
There is too much proof that we can see and touch, not to believe in evolution. Maybe God did create Adam and Eve. Obviously, He didn’t start or stop there.
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evidence
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You are right on the money. The only "proof" that the christians have is their bible!
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Evolutionists love to just declare victory and walk away. If they won’t hear the evidence, they don’t have to change their minds. But it’s nothing new. Science advances one gravestone at a time.
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Yes. Although i think thats part of being a theist, you believe in something you can’t prove but ‘know’ exists.
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I put my faith in Gods word, not in mans science… and evolution does not win in his book.
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I though Creationism always wins.
I don’t know where you’re getting your fact, buddy.
Evolutionists love to mix micro and macro evolution together. Thereby claiming ALL evolution is the same.
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Science and mathematics are a basis for all societal knowledge.
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Interesting, is it not, that Darwin, who came up with evolution, was a creationist.
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Evolution wins because it is the stronger more accurate way presented by our history – plus we are more educated and realize that the existance of God cannot be possible
(And YES I do know there are Christians our there with PhDs and that they are very smart – I know I know)
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Because culturally, it is easier to reject God and the expectations and requirements there from, than it is to accept a supreme being creator.
As for evolution winning and will continue to win, evolutionists fail to answer where the original matter for a Big Bang and subsequent material for life come from, they fail to explain (much less prove) a plausible theory that a combination of randomly mixed chemicals and elements somehow spurred on to be something akin to life. The evolution part is much easier to accept, but the starting point falls flat.
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Evolution can be proven, creationism cannot.
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In debates, facts beat faith.
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I’ve never seen it win, so maybe it’s just your perception?
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Cuz it’s true.
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I guess so.
I’m not a creationist so I couldn’t say for sure. But if you believe in creation then a lot of your proof relies on faith… Which can’t be proven. Not really.
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You can only understsnd the creation the day you will accept that you are a spirit
that your body is not you
you are the spirit in you and it come from GOD
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what in the he** is wrong with you ???how can you even want to be a creature of evolution??during the growth of the fetus in the womb, you can observe how the fetus changes from species to species. you can see all the evolutionary metamorphose’ going on. in the end the human fetus becomes a man in the likeness and image of the Creator. When was the last time anything changed from animal to man????? you must be kidding. you must not think very highly of the birth of a child,of the beauty and fearlessness of the weather.the weather alone shows man how limited our strengths are. man v.s. weather???no match.guns v.s. weather??no match…naw you are wrong..
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Reality vs. fantasy, I choose reality and thankfully so far so do most rational people. BTW, Dr. Kent Hovind got his degree from an unaccredited degree mill, one of those places you send money and get a diploma. The degree is not in anything science related. He started out teaching and pastoring a Baptist Christian school for 15 years then in 1989 he started his Creation science evangelism. He now under multiply felony indictments for tax fraud and threatening investigators. Yet this is the best they can do for a Creation science luminary?
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A faulty theory vs a writing done thousands of years after the scenario. We do have the skeletons of prehistoric man.
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Evolution has not won anything. Now there is a certain part I will agree about evolution, A tappole turns into a frog, maggots turns into flies. But Monkeys did not turn into man nor tappoles turn into man. If you believe that, then I want you to go to the Jungle & tell that monkey to turn himself into a man, & that he is running a little late on your evolution theory, & you tell that tappole that they forgot to turn into a man. Then see what happens, Come on now this challenge I put before you. See what happens, I will be waiting for your answer as to what happen.
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Why don’t you just wait and ask Satan if evolution exist. Maybe he will let you evolve from toast to soot. It’s not too late for you yet, but apparently you desire that direction.
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Give it time. Galileo suffered much at the hands of the Inquisition when he shared his observations: that the earth was round and it revolved around the sun. In his time, all believed the earth was flat and the center of the universe.
Not all dare to leave the "darkness" that enshrouds our deceived world… it won’t be dark for long. Those who want to, can always see by HIS light, but He waits for you to ask Him into your heart. God will not barge in although He has all power and every right to do so. If only to save us from ourselves.
Read: The Theory of Intelligent Design
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http://www.gnmagazine.org
http://www.e-sword.net/
creation evolution counsciousness go together for past 5 thousands everything is evolving till we go beyond time and space and final date for god’s plan is october 28 2011 it means we entering 4-5 dimension very few ppl don’t have slightest idea what’s ahed of times i could keep on writing without end bless you with love
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This is a simple one, really. For one thing, evolution hasn’t been proven, it is just a theory(which I fdirmly believe). Bible thumpers always revert to "you don’t know Jesus or the true faith, yadda yadda." It eventually becomes a mudslinging affair.
If there was an all powerful God, why would he need our petty worship? Why would he claim to heal the sick, and to appear to his followers, and yet he seems to be letting up on his job the last 300 years or so? Being all knowing, why didn’t he create some kind of proof, that would be timeless, and not dated like the bible, full of completely impossible fairytales (can anyone say Noah’s ark). He proves in the bible that he CAN reveal himself to man, but why not now? Why has God stopped talking vocally except to televangelists? Easy, the bible has stopped being written in for centuries now! If I was making up the stories and pulling things out my A$$ then I’d have a direct line to God too. Science doesn’t necessarily have all the answers(YET), and because of that, those that fear the unknown need to have a superstition that gives them hope. This is no different than the Gods of mount olympus. Assuming the religious groups don’t cause us to destroy the world around us first, in the armageddon they all want, men will slowly become enlightened as the mysteries of life reveal themselves too…..SCIENCE! Then, we can be one world, one race…HUMANS.
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Creationism has a very admirable and very acceptable explanation on how living and non living things exist and even galaxies etch. you can find it in a bible and any lecture book regarding the existence of anything. If we speak to evolution there is this part called the missing link who does not have any explanation.
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I think it’s funny that people are saying that creationism always wins. Further evidence of delusions =)
I wonder if they could also please will my student loans out of existance? Apparently if you just ignore them hard enough, they’re not there?
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Jim, we’ve been around and around about this. Although those of us in support of Creationism have repeatedly requested PROOF that the THEORY of evolution is scientifically factual, no one (even you) has been able to provide it. There remains a HUGE gap in this THEORY to this day — the missing link. Until it’s found, evolution remains your best guess as to how we got here.
You’re an intelligent person, so why can’t you see that we will not believe you until you can prove what you’re telling us is factual?
Peace. Now let’s move on, ok?
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do you wanna know the REAL reason. its gonna sound crazy. let me try to explain.
the people who are actually in charge of this country. not the people. politics, oil companies, scientists, military leaders, etc… (if you honestly believe the american people are in charge of this country, i pity your stupidity) dont get me wrong i love this country, i enjoy the freedoms and rights we used to have, and its a sytem i grew up with so i wouldn’t want it any other way.
ANYWAY those people in charge, DONT GIVE A F**%& about US. these people want to see the american people, thats us, that their in charge of live the american dream.
they want to see us fat, un-educated, and happy. if all americans got a good education, we would figure out what was really going on in this country.
do you know that the requirements, for graduating high school, keeps going down. we raise the standards, they come up with " no child behind " to many kids aren’t graduating, lets lower the standards.
and in this bad display to the rest of the world, what do you think is easier to teach, and easier to get an un-educated people to believe. the TRUTH…..or some complete crap shoot a guy named darwin came up with , more than likely when he was intoxicated. coming from monkeys….get real.
i think people who think we came from ape’s must lead the saddest live’s. there no faith in anything for them. and if you dont believe in anything…what good are you? your good enough to be an american, cause our leaders say so.
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God has always been denied by men.Man has always exulted himself above God.And yet all men still die and God still is.
He who writes the books controls the reality of men.
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Evolution wins, because it is based upon evidence, while creationism is based only upon groundless beliefs. Creationists would be glad to produce real evidence to support their beliefs if any existed, but it doesn’t, so they deal in lies and confusion. I see the stale "Missing Link" mentioned. This is confusing the issue. There are many missing links, but that doesn’t make the ones we have disappear. We can see much of the chain, even if many links are missing. That doesn’t prove creationism, obviously, so it’s just a feeble diversion. Someone mentions Hovind. I hear he is in trouble. One cannot win debates with such people, because he has them rigged to end his silly way. In a logical debate, he’d lose badly, because he has no logic.
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It could be because people who believe strictly in creationism know somewhere deep down that evolution is part of God’s great purpose, but since they have been taught something different their whole lives, they refuse to admit it or are just too close-minded to ideas. It’s like…young people(meaning under 18 I guess) who are racist; there’s no reason for that at all anymore, no reason for people to be so ignorant in this day and age. They take what their parents hand them and think it’s the ultimate way of thinking in the world.
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It is simple.
Creationism has 0 credible scientific evidence to support it..it is a "faith" hypothesis..not even a theory as it has no scientific repeatable evidence to support it..all it has for evidence is "uh..bible says so..uh..science sucks"
Evolution is a scientific theory with lots of data to back it up. Now no one has ever claimed it is a Law because we do not have enough evidence for that…but it is the best idea we have right now that is based on actual evidence.
So it is like the debate about what causes rain angel tears or water vapor in clouds…one has no evidence at all but sounds pretty..the other is not pretty but has actual information behind it. Every time I see debate between these 2 ideas I can only imagine people arguing Flat vs Round Earth idea.
For those who claim evolution has never provided the "missing link" How about they provide ANY link that Creationism provides. They can’t because there is NO LINK AT ALL.
I would like to say for record. If you disagree with Evolution that is fine but if you do either come up with a hypothesis with the evidence to back it up or just say you don’t believe in it but have nothing to offer…Creationism is not a scientific law or theory since it has no evidence at all behind it.
Jer Bear:: I agree that we are lowering standerd to get kids a diploma and it is wrong but you, like every opponent to evolution, do not understand evolution. Humans did **NOT** evolve from apes…apes and humans **BOTH** evolved from a common ancestor millions of years ago..the humans took one path and the apes took another path.
By saying humans evolved from apes is like saying I am decended from my cousin..it is simply not true..my cousin and I both decended from grandparent.
anieska:: Intelligent Design is **NOT** a theory..is has no evidence so it is only a hypothesis
Jim B:: again creationism is not a theory it is only a hypothesis…evolution IS a theory since it has scientific data to back it up..not scientifically same thing at all or even close..it is claims by people who mangle the scientific terminology that create confusion (maybe on purpose?) and besides evolution has nothing to do with how world/universe were created or how life started..only it’s progression based on scientific evidence
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Does it always win? Either way, I don’t think there’s enough physical evidence to conclusively support either theory. So it really boils down to what you believe. Do you believe that you are a slightly smarter version of the monkey, or that you are a being created in the Image of God with a value that you can’t even begin to imagine?
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It does? Ok then how did evolution get it’s start? Where did lifelessness become life. How did it survive when there was no plant or animal matter to ingest? How do you explain the fact that with the guidance of highly intelligent and educated scientist that this process can’t be reproduced in a lad under control condition when it "just happened when a bolt of lightening struck a pool of chemical laden water in the ammonia filled atmosphere of primordial earth? Do animals adapt, of course but at no time has a reptile produced a bird out of one of it’s eggs. Or eggs laid by a fish ever become a amphibian… Your theory is not observable. It is theory, just like creation is a theory. Both has as much weight scientifically as the other… Jim
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Because Creationism is total rubbish.
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Yet still the Creationists claim Dr. Dino has "won" numerous debates with Evolutionists and "proven" Creationism with scientific evidence. Of course Dr. Dino won’t be debating anything other than if his cell-mate is the "top" or "bottom" for the next 8-10 years. See, even God hates Dr. Dino.
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Well creationism isn’t empirically proved. Evolution, although admittedly only a partially proved theory, has enough scientific proof to be believed. Evolution is not taken on faith.
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